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-- they thought newt was such a great debater, they wanted to see someone like newt talk to president obama about his policies and about the last four years. and they thought newt would have been the guy to do it. and i don't think that the republicans now feel like they lost a step by having romney there. and in watching, i've tried to sometimes espouse free market principles, private sector language about how to approach certain things. and i got to tell you, there were a couple times last night where my eyes just got wider as i listened and, i don't know, sometimes your stances can make you -- if you're right about policy, it just -- maybe it's easier to win a debate. >> well, joe, a couple points. first of all, i think you're dead on about the gingrich point because i think mitt romney was newt gingrich's superior in the debate for the reason that i mentioned before. if you go after an incumbent president, you have to do it in the right way and new gingrich and proven over and over that he overtorts his rhetoric and goes too far and ultimately makes himself look bad. the other thing that romn
president obama didn't embrace simpson-bowles when it came out two years ago. i mean we could have made a lot of progress. >> he got some bad advice, but when he and boehner came close to the big deal, he was embracing simpson-bowles. >> well, simpson-bowles is no panacea either. it raises taxes, reduce investment and reduce jobs. >> paul ryan didn't want to do it either. it's a tough one. >> governors, thank you very much. we'll see you and talk to you again soon >> thank you. >>> coming up next we'll talk about what the tech world can learn from apple, a lesson from a top executive who worked directly with steve jobs. [ horn honks ] hey, it's sandra -- from accounting. peter. i can see that you're busy... but you were gonna help us crunch the numbers for accounts receivable today. i mean i know that this is important. well, both are important. let's be clear. they are but this is important too. [ man ] the receivables. [ male announcer ] michelin knows it's better for xerox to help manage their finance processing. so they can focus on keeping the world moving. with xerox, you're ready
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